COQUITLAM, B.C. 鈥 Liberal Leader Mark Carney admitted Thursday that he did not publicly disclose that U.S. President Donald Trump discussed Canada becoming part of the United States in a March 28 call that Carney previously described as respectful towards Canada’s sovereignty.聽
Carney confirmed a report from Radio-Canada, which revealed that Trump raised his desire to make Canada his country’s “51st state” during that conversation. Carney said he told Trump, as he has stated for weeks, that annexation will “never happen.”
At the same time, Carney rejected questions from reporters about whether he misled Canadians in how he characterized the call, stating the most important thing was that the two leaders concluded that whoever wins the April 28 federal election will start wide-ranging negotiations with the Trump administration over its trade war with Canada.聽
“He treated us with respect as a sovereign nation,” Carney said at a campaign stop in British Columbia’s Lower Mainland.聽
However, Carney added, Trump’s statements about absorbing Canada, including in remarks Wednesday at the White House, underscore the reality that the U.S. wants this country’s resources, land and water.聽
“That’s what’s at stake,” he said. “The desire of the Americans and the president to own us聽鈥 those aren’t just words.”聽
At their own campaign stops across the country on Thursday, Carney’s political rivals blasted him for the call, with Bloc Qu茅b茅cois Leader Yves-Fran莽ois Blanchet accusing the Liberal leader of using Canada’s sovereignty as a political “stunt” and pretending the conversation with Trump went better than it really did.聽
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said Carney must explain why he was not candid about Trump on their call. The Tory leader rejected any possibility of Canada joining the U.S., and urged voters to elect a Conservative government so it can reverse Liberal government policies he blames for weakening the Canadian economy.聽
Those policies include climate action initiatives like the industrial carbon price, a cap on emissions from fossil fuel development, and the repeal of the federal law governing how major development projects are assessed for environmental impacts.聽
“We will stand up for our sovereignty. We will never be an American state, and we will focus on what we can control, which is to reverse the disastrous Liberal economic policies that Mark Carney advised Justin Trudeau to take, which have driven up the cost of living and driven our jobs south,” Poilievre said in Halifax.聽
The revelation about the March 28 call comes in the final days of the campaign, as the Liberals build their case to voters around an argument that Carney聽鈥 who led Canada’s central bank during the 2008 financial crisis, and the Bank of England amid the turmoil of the U.K.‘s exit from the European Union聽鈥 is battle-tested and ready to confront Trump’s economic and annexation threats.
Since that March 28 conversation, Trump had refrained from talking about annexing Canada in public until this week. On Wednesday he repeated his desire for Canada to join the U.S. in comments to reporters in the Oval Office. Trump also hinted that the 25 per cent tariffs on Canadian autos he imposed in March “could go up” and that he wants to see the Canadian automakers move to the U.S.
After speaking with Carney in March, Trump had referred to him as prime minister, a stark shift from his taunting references to former prime minister Justin Trudeau as Canada’s “governor,” 鈥 deference which Carney reminded reporters about on Thursday.
After the call聽鈥 the Liberal leader’s only direct conversation with Trump since becoming prime minister on March 14聽鈥 Carney had said only the “spirit of the call was cordial” and “constructive” and that Trump “respected Canada’s sovereignty in both his public and private comments.”聽
Premier Doug Ford was asked Thursday about Trump reviving his jab about Canada becoming the 51st state.
鈥淪ometimes I think the cheese slips off the cracker with this guy,鈥 Ford said of the U.S. president, to much applause from those attending the Public Policy Forum鈥檚 economic summit in Toronto.
鈥淗e wakes up in the morning, and even the people around him aren鈥檛 sure what he鈥檚 going to do, or what he鈥檚 going to say. It鈥檚 pretty scary that the most powerful person in the world can change the markets.鈥
Ford later told reporters that Trump鈥檚 remarks were 鈥渁 disappointment. I thought we鈥檇 moved past that. We鈥檙e going to move forward and sit down and have a mutually rewarding relationship moving forward. But I guess he鈥檚, as they say, two steps forward and then 10 steps backwards again.鈥
However, the premier predicted the election should bring a change in tone.
鈥淟et鈥檚 see what happens on the 28th,鈥 Ford said. 鈥淚 think (the election) will bring certainty, and the new prime minister, whoever that might be, can go down there, some of the premiers join in. Let鈥檚 come up with a fair trade deal.鈥
Carney has repeatedly said in recent weeks he wants a “strong mandate” from Canadians to lead negotiations with the Trump administration, suggesting this week that he would travel to meet Trump聽in person聽as early as the start of May, when he said talks will start.
In Winnipeg,聽NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh accused Carney of being dishonest with Canadians, which he said raises questions about how Carney can be trusted to negotiate with Trump.
“I’m worried, I think, as a lot of Canadians are worried, that if Mark Carney is not being straight up with us, he’s not going to be straight up with us in the negotiations,” Singh told reporters.
“We’re worried about what Mark Carney is willing to give up, what he’s willing to concede.”
Speaking to reporters in Dorval, Que., Blanchet alleged Carney’s original description of the call raises questions about his credibility.
“I believe many people in Canada and in Quebec will say, ‘What the hell is that?’ And if that is not true, what else is not true?鈥 he said.聽
The Liberal leader has said repeatedly that he would never negotiate with the Trump administration over聽Canada’s sovereignty, control over its resources and culture, and policies like the supply management system for dairy and eggs. He repeated Thursday that the previous relationship with the U.S. is “over,” and that Canada must bolster its own economy and deepen trade with more reliable countries.聽
That would strengthen Canada’s position in negotiations with Trump, meaning Canada would not have to seek a “short term” deal to end the trade war, Carney said.聽
Poilievre has made a similar argument about the need for new trading partners and a stronger economy, and says he would ask Trump to suspend tariffs while starting negotiations with his administration. He has also said, however, that it remains possible to return to better relations, promising to negotiate an end to tariffs and use the proceeds from expanded commerce with the U.S. to build the Canadian military.聽
In his 2021 book “Value(s)”, Carney wrote that effective leadership and rebuilding public trust requires leaders to be transparent, establish facts, be candid about uncertainty, and communicate clearly with the public. He wrote about the downside of giving too much complex information to people, but also about the need for leaders to have and show humility.
“Leaders need to be humble about success and honest about failure,” Carney wrote. “Admitting mistakes and publicly learning lessons are important parts of being authentic.”
With files from Tonda MacCharles, Mark Ramzy and Kris Rushowy
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